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Mindblower
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September 17, 2008 - 10:38 am
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Hello. I have a strange and unique problem on one computer. I am forced to log-on by either the Welcome screen or Classic screen. I call it strange, since I've always been able to defeat this feature on previous computers, by either deselecting the Welcome screen switch, or use a program with remembers the previous user, and is allowed to have this entered automatically. After trying all possible combinations, I'm willing to try just about anything, since I'd prefer this computer be able to restart automatically by itself. Thanks, Mindblower!

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September 17, 2008 - 10:56 am
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You can download a program called TweakUI (http://tinyurl.com/553fw6) from Microsoft that will enable you to auto-login. It has other features you may like too.

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Thanks Ziggie, but unfortunately it did not work. The switch setting to automatically log me on, is similar to the one I tried with another program.

When activating the feature and rebooting, I get the Logon Message "the system could not log you on. make sure your user name and domain are correct ........" After clicking to accept this error message, I then have to select the screen name I setup.

Anything else, Mindblower!

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I suspect that there may be something "goofy" about the account that is failing the auto-login. I would likely try temporarily disabling the other user accounts to see what happens upon reboot to a single active user account. The system should log into that account automatically if no password is set.

A failure to auto-logon under the above conditions would lead me to create a new Admin level account and transfer my data and settings:
http://support.microsoft.com/?.....bid=811151

I would then disable the 'old' account (I wouldn't delete it until I was sure that everything had transferred properly), re-enable the other accounts, and then use TweakUI to auto-logon the newly created account.

Just a way to approach the problem. It may be that your XP install is suffering problems at a level that User Account control cannot correct.
How log since you ran Checkdisk "R" and "scannow?"

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It sounds like the computer is on a network and/or domain??

Try this in the tweakui setup, for username use: machinenameusername

so if your computer is named tower and your username is bubba, set your sign-in like this: towerbubba
While it could be that your XP installation is getting wonky, I'm more inclined to think that the login information isn't set up correctly.

YMMV (Your milage may vary)

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So far, I've tried all your suggestions with no luck.

This problem started immediately alter installing and doing the Windows Update, on a new computer. After several updates and reboots, I was presented with the Logon screen. There is only ONE user account, apart from the ones the o/s supplies like guest and admin.

What is strange, confusing, and totally insane, is that I was forced to do a fresh install several days later due to a failed driver install - BUT, this is NOT the problem, since it happened twice, and the second time the problem driver was corrected (seems there was a glitch reading the driver from the CD).

Yes, this computer is sort of on a network, in that a router feeds several computers. They are fully independent, and do not speak or exchange any files.

I've gone many installs with other computers, and have always succeeded in by-passing the Welcome screen. The program I use is Tweak Now PowerPack Pro. It allows one to do an auto logging. Believe it's the same switch that TweakUI uses.

The reason I'd prefer to have the auto feature active, is that this computer is not monitored often (since it's sole purpose is to d/l - and speed/time do not factor). If there is a glitch, I'd want the computer to reboot and restart/continue by itself.

Thanks for the suggestions, since as I mentioned, willing to try just about anything. Being silly here, but would the fact this unit uses a duel core processor have anything to do with the problem, Mindblower!

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September 17, 2008 - 7:16 pm
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Minblower,

I HIGHLY doubt this has anything to do with a dual core cpu.

How about we try this the old fashioned way?
1. Click Start, click Run, and type control userpasswords2.

2. Clear the Users must enter a username and password to use this computer check box.

3. Click Apply.

4. Enter the user name and password you wish to automatically log on with, and then click OK.

5. Click OK again and you're all done.

As an aside, I'm very cautious of programs like this. I would look for a Reset Defaults setting in the program and use it. Uninstall the program. Use System Restore to restore a point earlier than when the program was installed.

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As an aside, I'm very cautious of programs like this. I would look for a Reset Defaults setting in the program and use it. Uninstall the program. Use System Restore to restore a point earlier than when the program was installed.[/quote:1xcieljp]

That's why I suggested tweakui. It's from microsoft, so it would seem to be pretty safe.

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Actually did submit I took all those steps, but Dave's suggestion is the [b:31wv9qik]WINNER[/b:31wv9qik]. Followed his steps and it really works.

Thanks to all for your suggestioms and patience. [b:31wv9qik]Extra big thank you to Dave[/b:31wv9qik], since this was the step that worked, Mindblower!

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September 19, 2008 - 6:21 pm
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What do I win?

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September 20, 2008 - 7:59 am
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Well Dave, how about my respect (something I rarely give freely), Mindblower!

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Once more I needed to refer back to the advise Dave offered on this topic. The only odd items I noticed when used the forced logon screen, is/was the way the drivers (bottom right toolbar) get loaded (displayed). when I went through the logon screen, I noticed my Firewall/AV program got loaded sooner. Not sure what this means or does, but since there is a difference an wondering if someone could shed light on this weird occurance.

BTW, thanks once again to Dave for his right on the money fix, Mindblower!

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Hey MB - This is just pure conjecture on my part, derived from logic rather than any experience/knowledge, so don't take it as gospel. Dave and/or Ziggie will, most likely, have a definitive answer.

This is my theory: I am assuming some programs may get separated and prioritized when booting up via log-on screen, i.e. high priority services (such as firewall, AV, etc) will be loaded [i:2jcst19n]prior[/i:2jcst19n] to log-on displaying. Then, after log-on, all other programs/services will load. This would give the high priority services a head start and their icons would logically appear in the notification area first. By-passing the log-on screen would eliminate the 'head start' and tend to make the loading of the system icons a more random affair.

Well, come on guys...how close am I?? Close, very close, far far away, not even in the same hemisphere?

cheers MB.....I await the 'correct' answer, from one of our 'gurus', with much interest.

JIM

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Jim - you're as much a guru as anyone else here.

I've never looked into it, but I believe Windows prioritizes services on startup. If you look at your services window then at startup, everything set to Automatic is going to load immediately. All at once. If your boot up times are slow, this would be a place to start.

When you login, then the Startup items run. (Items in the Start Menu -- Startup folder).

With auto login, you get a fun mish mash of the services trying to start at the same time as the Startup folder items. The processor freaks out, gets everything running as quick as it can and the simpler programs will most likely load faster than the more complex items (such as Antivirus).

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I'll accept those answers, since you get what you pay for. Makes sense, don't know enough to dispute, Mindblower!

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