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Lanie
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I purchased my laptop with Windows 7 Home Premium. I hated it, couldn't stand all the Windows Live junk. I wanted Outlook back.  I was able to install office on my machine, I only wanted to add outlook, Excel and PowerPoint, but I think it installed everything.  It updated Word and I have the office/professional versions of Excel and powerpoint 7.

 

My question is...both operating systems are taking up over 40% of my hard drive. I would like to delete Home if I can without losing all my old files. I'm just not sure how to do it.  My system still says that Windows 7 home premium is my edition.  I'm confused, how can I figure out what to delete and actually delete it?

 

Thank you!

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July 7, 2012 - 9:14 am
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Lanie,

Windows 7 Home Premium is the operating system. Office is a program that runs within the operating system. Neither, by themselves or together, should consume half your hard drive unless you have a very small drive.

 

How big is your drive?

Which version of Office: Office 2010, Office 2007, or Office 2003?

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Lanie,

Windows 7 Home Premium is the operating system. Office is a program that runs within the operating system. Neither, by themselves or together, should consume half your hard drive unless you have a very small drive.

 

How big is your drive?

Which version of Office: Office 2010, Office 2007, or Office 2003?

 

I am running Office 2007 and Windows 7.  Home my hard drive is 4GB

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October 20, 2012 - 5:42 am
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4GB is incredibly small and I haven't seen any drives that small since the early 2000's. 40GB maybe?

First thing would be run a program like Ccleaner - http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download/standard to clear out any temporary files.

The second thing you can do is to change the installed Office programs to remove the ones you don't want. Just act like you're going to uninstall office. When the uninstallation process starts you'll be asked if you want to Remove, Modify, or Repair. If you choose Modify you'll basically enter the setup process again where you can use Customize and choose which programs are or are not installed.

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Thanks for the info. Every time I do one of the system performance assessments, it tells me I'm running out of space on my hard drive.  This machine is only 2.5 - 3 yrs old at the most.  I didn't think it was really possible.   I'm not sure if I'm really out of space or not. I do know that when I installed Office, it installed a bunch of programs that I didn't need or want. I tried to only install outlook, powerpoint and excel.  It updated my word too which was fine, I was running an older version of it anyway.  I know I have a few more things that I don't need and won't really use and I still have the disk so I can always install it if I need. it.  I also have some of those Windows Live programs, which I hate - movie maker, gallery and writer.  I still can't figure out what's taking up so much room.  But, I looked up what size my hard drive is and this is what I found:

Total amount of system memory 4.00 GB RAM
  System type 64-bit operating system
  Number of processor cores 2
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  Total size of hard disk(s) 288 GB
  Disk partition (C:) 3 GB Free (59 GB Total)
  Disk partition (D:) 225 GB Free (230 GB Total)
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Hi Lanie - Jumping in here, hope you (or Dave) don't mind.

So the 4GB is actually the amount of installed RAM (random access memory). Your hard disk capacity is the critical factor here and, at 290GB total (C + D), that's just fine. However, your hard disk has been divided into two partitions - a system partition (C) for the operating system (Windows 7) plus installed programs, and a second partition (D) for data.

Over the two partitions you have a total of 228GB free space (which is plenty) but only 3GB of that is on the system (C) partition. My guess would be that you have a lot of personal data, things like music, photos, videos, etc. stored on the system (C) partition... is that correct? All you need do is 'move' those files over to the 'D' partition.

There are several ways to do that but the simplest method would probably be to create new folders on the 'D' partition, with appropriate names - such as Videos, Pictures, Music, etc, and then drag and drop the files from the corresponding folders on C partition to the new folders on D partition.

(*remember that simultaneously pressing the Ctrl and A keys will select all files within a folder)

There is another method which is a little more complicated but will permanently transfer those User folders over to the D partition, and any new personal data will then be automatically saved to the new location (D partition). If you feel confident enough to tackle that one, let us know and we can help walk you through the process.

Whichever, I'm pretty sure that if you transfer all your personal data over to the D partition, that will solve your problem.

Cheers... Jim

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Thanks Jim.  I knew something was up but couldn't figure it out.  I see now what you're talking about.  I am in the process of copying all of my files to the D: drive.  One quick question - How do I set it up so that from now on I only save my docs, music, etc. to the D: drive and not the C? 

I also noticed that when I went to copy all my music it said I have close to 6,000 files or 11.9 GB which is huge and weird because I only have 900 songs on my iPhone but I do have copies of my music in the same folder just not in itunes.  I'm think that I have my iphone, ipod and the other music files, that it might be in triplicate but I'm not sure, in any case that would only equal 2700 songs. So I'll have to look into that more carefully.  I guess I really just need to know how do I make my D: drive the default one.

 

This might be a ridiculous question but after I move everything over I should just go ahead and delete all those other  C: files.  I won't lose anything...I'm just trying to be cautious. 

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Hi Lanie - If you 'move' all the files from C to D, rather than 'copy', the files will no longer be on C partition anyway. If you already used the 'copy' option, rather than 'move', yes you can delete those files from the C partition... they are now stored on D. (see how to change drag and drop default action from 'copy' to 'move' here: https://davescomputertips.com/2012/06/how-to-change-drag-drops-default-behavior/)

I'm going to write up a guide on how to move user folders to a secondary (data) partition and publish it on the DCT blog. The blog is more conducive to guides, and particularly screenshots. You'll then be able to view the instructions on the blog. I'll also post a link to that guide here.

I'll do that today,

Cheers... Jim

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Gerry,

Windows 7 has been out for quite some time and it is extremely well documented.

Once again, Microsoft puts up websites with slick graphic images that make marketing Microsoft people drool and congradulate themselves on what pretty webpages they create, but can not construct a website that can easily and quickly answer the simple question: "what programs come with Win 7 basic edition?"

There is no "basic" edition, but you can see exactly what features are included in each version right here on DCT at https://davescomputertips.com/2011/08/the-complete-guide-to-windows-7-upgrades-and-versions/.

Movie Maker can be downloaded for free at http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-live/movie-maker-get-started.

The best way to answer the question, "what programs come with Win 7 Basic edition" is to go to a computer store and look at the Start Menu. Microsoft's inability to construct clear websites has made me decide to put-off buying Win7 for a couple years until that product team gets it stuff together.

Windows 7 is an excellent OS and definitely worth the upgrade. Any information you may need is available for the asking right here on DCT or with a Google search.

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