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Selahgal
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October 18, 2010 - 11:59 am
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I just started trying Outlook Express [hubby uses Outlook on the same computer so I can't use it].

I know there is an option to 'play a sound' when mail arrives but my speakers are almost always off. Is there another way to be notified if mail comes in? I have it set up to check for mail every 10 minutes right now.

Also, is there a way to minimize it to the system tray?

Thanks!

Marci

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October 18, 2010 - 1:26 pm
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I think that the two things you want of Outlook Express you can't get them without a little help.

The most mentioned (free) applications for doing what you want are [url=http://www.r2.com.au/software.php?page=2&show=hideoe:3pa2ykfs]HideOE[/url:3pa2ykfs] and [url=http://www.accuratesolution.net/oema.htm:3pa2ykfs]Outlook Express Mail Alert (OEMA)[/url:3pa2ykfs] that can help you do the things you want.
I've never used them myself, so can't tell you how exactly to set up/ use them but from what I've read they do the job nicely and are easy to set up/ use. Also, they're quite old so you might face incompatability issues, depending on the OS you're on.

If you don't mind me asking, could you please explain why exactly you can't use Outlook?
As far as I know, you can set up more than one email accounts (even from the same provider) on Outlook and make some extra settings to receive and save/ sort emails in seperate folders. And you can still schedule check for emails per account.

Hope this is of some help.

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October 18, 2010 - 10:32 pm
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Well, basically hubby and I wanted to each have our own email clients. So we can't both use Outlook as we'd open the same program each time, even though it would get all our email in one place. We can't have a 'HIS' and 'HERS' Outlook, in other words.

I will check out those programs you mentioned. It does fetch mail when I open it, but not when it's not open, even though I've checked the box to check for mail every 10 minutes! I guess every program has it's glitches eh?

Thanks!

Marci

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October 19, 2010 - 9:19 am
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You can set up Profiles in Outlook to give you the HIS and HERs variety, but only one can be running at a time.
Outlook Express....wow.

I'd recommend Thunderbird as an alternative client for you. I haven't used it in a bit (I prefer a web interface myself), but the last time I did it had the pop up notifications and I think even a minmize to tray option.

Just a thought...

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October 20, 2010 - 11:13 am
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Sounds wonderful, zig, but my brain just cannot handle learning a new program from scratch right now. I think I tried Thunderbird ages ago. Outlook Express has it's bugs too, but I did learn how to use it many years ago while working in an office and I used it a lot.

Why does everything have to be so doggone complicated?????!!!!!!!

Marci

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October 21, 2010 - 4:28 am
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Why does everything have to be so doggone complicated?????!!!!!!![/quote:2jfdfj4w]
That's what keeps it exciting!

If you want to use Outlook there are two options...
1. Create a new profile. Only one profile can be active when the program is running so it is like having two different Outlook programs on the same computer each with its' own settings and email accounts (just like Ziggie said). You can learn more about Outlook Profiles [url=http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook-help/outlook-e-mail-profiles-explained-HA001147158.aspx:2jfdfj4w]here[/url:2jfdfj4w].
2. Create a new folder for your email, create a rule to filter your email into that folder(s), and create a new account to send your email from. Once the program is running all of your email would end up in your folder (you can create sub folders too). Any mail you reply to would automatically use your account to send, but for new emails you would have to make sure the correct account was chosen.

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Ok I'm using Outlook Express for my email now. Finally got all the Incredimail stuff deleted yesterday ... I think! Decided to keep on with Outlook Express for now, BUT having some issues with it.

I have installed the EMAIL ALERT program AND the program that'll minimize it to the System Tray. Kind of useful, but it doesn't seem to be checking the email every 10 minutes as I have it set up to do. I have to open OE to get my email.

Also, when I click on an email to REPLY, the new window always opens up small and then I have to open it big to type the reply. Small but very annoying issue.

When I am scrolling down the email to read it, if my cursor slips off the window, then OE disappears and I have to reopen it. No clue why this happens.

Ok, easy fix, yes?

Marci

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October 26, 2010 - 5:54 pm
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Hey Marci - So you finally got rid of Incredimail....well done you!!!

Never heard of the 'Email Alert' program so obviously don't know much about it. IMO, best free email notifier is Pop Peeper, home page is here: http://www.poppeeper.com/

May I suggest trying out the free version of MailWasher. Mailwasher provides alerts, both audio and visual, whenever new mail arrives and it is also a superb email manager PLUS you do not need to have OE running for MailWasher to do its thing : http://filehippo.com/download_.....ailwasher/

I believe there is not an option/setting in Outlook Express to open new emails (new, reply, forward, etc) in full screen window. Instead of using the maximize button, try this: Leave the window small and, using your mouse, drag the four sides of the small window to the extremities of the screen until it fills the whole screen. Now when you close out OE, it should remember that and continue to open new windows in that full size from then on.

Not sure what you mean by the last one (cursor slipping off the window bit)....need further clarification.

Cheers....Jim

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October 27, 2010 - 9:12 am
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Hey Jim!

The two programs I am using to alert for email and to minimize OE to the System Tray are what Flying Dutchman recommended earlier in the thread there.

I will check out your recommendations too.

So dragging the window open by the corners instead of clicking the max button will make the program remember the 'last setting'? I have several programs who won't open in the max position despite many attempts to get them to do so!

When the window is open, on the right side is the scroll bar. I'm using the scroll bar to scroll through the email, but if the cursor accidentally slips outside the window border, OE disappears from the desktop. It's like it wasn't even opened.

I think I have tried or used Mailwasher once upon a time. I'll check it out again tho.

Thanks!

Marci

UPDATE: Maximizing by dragging the borders of the window worked! The next time I opened an email to reply, it was the same size I left it! EXCELLENT!

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October 27, 2010 - 4:19 pm
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Hey Marci - OK. I checked out the programs as per FD's recommendations. The email notifier (OEMA) requires Outlook Express to be running continuously. The software does not check on the server to see if any new emails have arrived, it checks your Inbox in Outlook Express to see if any new messages have been added....it needs Outlook Express running to do that.

MailWasher, on the other hand, does not need Outlook Express running. MW checks for any new emails on your[i:y2hqdtg9] server[/i:y2hqdtg9]. When it notifies you of new emails, first off you open the MW interface and there you can preview and check the details of the incoming emails; who sent it to you, the size of the mail (including attachments), the subject line, etc. From there you can choose to delete any emails you do not want, keep the ones you want to see, then click on a [b:y2hqdtg9]Process Mail[/b:y2hqdtg9] button and it will automatically open Outlook Express and download to your computer only those emails you chose to have a look at.

I am wondering if the slipping cursor/disappearing OE thingee has anything to do with the 'HideOE' software you installed. Unlikely but I don't know of any other obvious reason for that behavior.

If your mouse includes a center (scrolling) wheel, why not use that to scroll the email. Is easier and quicker than using the scroll bar. Just left click any blank space in the body of the email and then scroll up and down using the wheel.

Cheers mate....Jim

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October 28, 2010 - 6:47 am
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From my OP again:
[quote:2fcig1dw]The [u:2fcig1dw]most mentioned[/u:2fcig1dw] (free) applications for doing what you want are...[/quote:2fcig1dw]
[quote:2fcig1dw]I've [b:2fcig1dw]never used[/b:2fcig1dw] them myself, so [b:2fcig1dw]can't[/b:2fcig1dw] tell you how exactly to set up/ use them but [u:2fcig1dw]from what I've read[/u:2fcig1dw] they do the job nicely and are easy to set up/ use.[/quote:2fcig1dw]
I'd hardly call this a recommendation.

Apologies if I, unwillingly, put Marci through any hoops that don't deliver the desired results.

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October 28, 2010 - 8:24 am
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FD - I was merely replicating Marci's use of "recommendations" from here: [quote:vlfsylc8]The two programs I am using to alert for email and to minimize OE to the System Tray are what Flying Dutchman[i:vlfsylc8] recommended[/i:vlfsylc8] earlier in the thread ...[/quote:vlfsylc8]
So Marci would easily recognise what I was talking about.

I can assure you it was never my intention to be critical in any way, I was merely trying to point out the differences in the software to Marci, I'm sorry for any misunderstanding. There is no need for you to apologise to anyone mate, we really appreciate your responses here and the assistance your are offering.

Marci - No program can check to see if you have any emails unless it is actually up and running. Even if you decide to use MailWasher, you will need to start that program before it can check on the server to see if any new emails have arrived. If you want to have software checking for new emails at regular intervals you need to leave it running permanently in the background. That's why a lot of people would set the software to auto-start with Windows.

Cheers....Jim

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October 28, 2010 - 4:00 pm
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So far that Pop Peeper seems to be doing the job well enough.

Today I opened OE and found all my subfolders were gone.

Geesh, is that thing demon possessed or somethin?

Marci

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October 30, 2010 - 2:01 pm
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FD - I can assure you it was never my intention to be critical in any way, I was merely trying to point out the differences in the software to Marci, I'm sorry for any misunderstanding.
Cheers....Jim[/quote:rgy9rweo]
Hey Jim,
Actually, it's me who needs to apologize about the misunderstanding, as I managed to mess this up.
All I wanted to say is I'm sorry that the precautions I took in my OP weren't enough to make it clear it was just a suggestion and not a recommendation. I used the wrong expression while trying to make that apology .

So Jim, all is good and no offense taken. And thanks for
we really appreciate your responses here and the assistance your are offering. [/quote:rgy9rweo]
Means a lot to such a new member as myself.

Now, please excuse me, have to go practice on my English so this won't happen again .

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October 30, 2010 - 5:10 pm
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All good FD...very pleased to hear I haven't inadvertently offended you in any way.

Thanks for clearing it up...much appreciated!!

Cheers now.....Jim

BTW: Your English is excellent FD!!

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