When You Just Can’t Leave XP


windows-xp-still-want-xpIf you have read any of my posts, you know I am all about moving forward with Windows 10. However, there are circumstances when that is not possible, particularly with Windows XP. Some proprietary programs or games just won’t work with an upgrade. Also, many retired people living on fixed incomes are using PC’s that can’t physically support an upgrade and feel they can’t afford a new PC.

The Story

windows-xp-my-story-imageThis post is about a recent repair for a client that could easily afford a new system, but has become so familiar with XP and the way his system was set up, that options like switching to Linux or upgrading were out of the question. He wanted his system and wanted me to fix it at any cost, well, almost any cost. So, if you too are an ardent XP user, don’t want to change and experience problems, this story might help you.

The Presumed Problem

windows-xp-assumed-problem-imageThe client’s system has slowed to a crawl, and in addition, he could not load an “All in One” printer that was XP-compatible. He wanted it “back to new” speed and, of course, with the printer and scanner working.

After checking his system out, I was not surprised. This is a very old computer with no back-ups and the user has no clue of the original disc’s location. It was loaded with useless programs and it contained every Microsoft update from day one. The computer was too old for an upgrade of any kind and only had a 32GB hard drive to begin with and no bay for a second.


Without a possibility of leaving XP, I started by using my standard troubleshooting method. However, every attempt at installing an antivirus, or even Microsoft Sysinternal, would crash the program with a fatal fault.

I immediately thought, in error, that this was a clear sign of an infection by malware or rootkit virus. Scanning with antivirus, and anti-malware programs from a USB disk revealed nothing but some Possibly Unwanted Programs (PUPs) and a couple of Key Loggers.

My next task was to free up some space on the hard drive and remove start-ups and unnecessary programs. No matter what I did I could not get it moving faster than a crawl, nor could I get the printer to install.

The 32GB hard drive was too small to create a new partition and install a new XP. I did have an old XP disk laying around so I attempted a repair. I first backed up all the customer’s personal files and then used Belarc Advisor to obtain all his software and OS keys in case something went wrong. Something went wrong! The repair function not only did not work, but when it came to the “Enter your product key” prompt, unfortunately, none of the keys would work.


Belarc mentions that often the displayed Product Key might be the one the manufacturer substituted. Microsoft does offer a way to retrieve the original Key by using the manufacturer’s key, but it needs access to the computer which was not possible in a half-installed state. Now I was in the position of “Up the creek without a paddle”. It was too late to go back and I could not go forward.

The Actual Problem

The client had started using a couple of external hard drives so he could access his data on his wife’s laptop. Instead of creating copies and keeping them in sync, he moved some folders from the PC and placed them on one external drive and then moved other folders to another external hard drive. Programs that required those folders, especially multipurpose printers, would create a fatal fault when not found. I believe Windows is also slowed by constantly looking for the missing folders if the drives are not hooked up. After rewriting the registry to redirect where programs looked, it did speed up the system a little but obviously I did not correct enough entries to fix it completely.

The Solution

windows-xp-actual-problem-imageI will save you from the part of the story that describes the step by step tasks I performed to get his system back. Needless to say, this is not my first trip around the block.

Knowing that I had all his personal information, my only real possibility was a new install but without a Key, that was difficult.


Finally, I found Get Into PC, a site that offered a “Windows XP SP3 ISO Ready to Boot Image” for Free. I used Partition Wizard, a free bootable partition manager, and merged a 5GB partition to the main partition. Then it was a simple matter of inserting the ISO CD, making sure the CD was bootable from the BIOS, then starting the computer. The CD installed Windows Pro (the client had Home Edition), added all the necessary drivers, and started up into a fresh Windows XP. I literally had only two security updates to make and that was it.

It was a simple matter of reinstalling all his documents, photos, and programs like Open Office, and Avast for protection.

I was very happy to return to the customer a duplicate of what he had but now was no less than 8 times faster, caused no crashes, had a printer/scanner installed, and absolutely everything was free.  Granted I could have gotten there with Linux, but the customer is always right.

Summary

If for whatever reason, you need or want to hang onto Windows XP. I hope knowing that even without your original discs or Product Keys you will still be able to recover from any non-hardware situation. I have had to spruce up several XP systems in the past and always managed to get them running at least a little faster– but this one was a killer.


If you use external hard drives, I would recommend not moving folders like My Documents, My Pictures, etc., but rather create copies so when they are not connected you will not experience any problems. On older systems, I would also recommend doing all your work on the computer and copying the finished file, instead of working directly from a slower Flash Drive or USB external drive.

Tip: SATA drives have a transfer rate as high as 6Gb/s but average around 2Gb/s. USB 1.0 only transfers at 12Mb/s and USB 2.0 up to 480Mb/s.

I hope this customer’s fix is helpful to someone else, but for me, it was a lesson learned.

Jim


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Jim Canfield

My interest in computers was a natural transition from all things electronics. I was hooked after building my first Heathkit computer around 1976, which evolved into a TSR80 and a long list of Windows computers. My first full blown program was a graphics program which started my career path in graphic design and IT work for 40 years. I now run a small computer repair and service company focused on helping veterans and retirees in our area with computer and software training classes.

14 Comments

  1. Hi Jim
    I have worked on several XP PC’s with the small HD’s. Most of my customers have taken my advice and cloned XP to a larger HD to get more room for a dual boot with Linux.
    I can see the need for running XP, and I still do, but not as the main OS, and especially not the one I use for my internet. I can only imagine what this will be like when W7 goes unsupported. XP is not broken but it has been severely crippled.

  2. I downloaded that XP Professional ISO and burned it to a CD-R CD and it booted right up in an old PC I have. I am going to try and use this CD to boot up an old PC that has XP Home and use that product key to get XP activated. Hoping this CD isn’t tied to any CD product key.

    • dandl, I have scoured the site but did not see this product listed as a trial period. Several other downloads state trail period. I certainly hope it is not tied to a product key. If it is, where would it come from. I will keep checking.

  3. This has nothing to do with a trial period. I have two XP Pro retail XP CD’s and one HP PC that has a valid OEM XP product key. I can install XP Pro on this PC and use the product key that came with that media for activation. As for as I know all XP product keys are tied to the install media, either XP Home, XP Pro or XP Media Center. What I would like to have is an ISO for XP Home.

  4. If you got that copy of XP Pro you installed on your friends PC to activate then I would sure like to know how?

    • dandl, it was absolutely no problem. Like I said, I just did a merge of his 5Gb partition to his primary partion, did a complete format and put the XP Pro ISO in the DVR and installed it to fresh 32Gb hard drive. Nothing else to it.

  5. You can also use XP on the mac system. Use parallels and insert your XP disk and the image, speed etc. is so fast. Takes 10 seconds to load the first time and when you close it down to sit on the docking station it than becomes immediate.

    The program works better than on any Windows (Microsoft) computer.

    I have 3 programs that will only work on XP. Windows 7 is useless unless you have the Pro version or Ultimate version which provides an XP virtual program.

    • Always good advice John, I’m glad you mentioned it. I did it of course but sometimes the things I take for granted, and fail to mention it.

  6. I actually have one very old system running Windows ME. ME? Yes. It is because I have a couple old SCSI devices that are not supported on XP, VISTA, 7, 8, 10.
    I only use it to access those devices (it’s not on the Internet and I don’t need to update anything on it).

    So there are sometimes other reasons why you might not want to upgrade or be able to upgrade.

    • Charley, does this mean that now I have a place to send my old SCSIs. Just kidding. Actually one of my favorite systems was a workstation that used two 10,000rpm SCSIs but they were supported by XP Still have SCSI externals but no place to plug it in any longer. WOW! Windows ME, glade to see someone still using it.