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Jim Hillier
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May 6, 2011 - 10:21 pm
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[quote:vb9e23xw]I would imagine that the updates Sumatra is offering are just downloading replacement a replacement file as well[/quote:vb9e23xw]
Of course!! I've never actually downloaded anything from Sumatra, my policy is 'if it ain't broke, no need to fix it'. But what you say makes perfect sense Zig.

[quote:vb9e23xw]When you have an all in one portable file, it's very very difficult to update specific portions of it without simply replacing it.[/quote:vb9e23xw]
Well there ya go then. Make sense as to why the portable scanner/remover software would require updating in full.

Thanks Zig!!

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Seems like the mystery's solved, thanks Ziggie.

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[quote="ozbloke":j1zcktc6] Although, why the portable apps could not include a button link to manually download updates is beyond me.[/quote:j1zcktc6]
So how do you download these updates if the infection has killed the computers ability to connect to the net?

The good thing about MSS is the latest updates are built in. kind of hard to manually update SAS or MalwareBytes if you don't know what you're doing.

They are all tools with the same purpose, but different methods of achieving the goal. Put them in your toolbox and use the appropriate tool when needed.

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[quote="DavesComputerTips":36qojugo]They are all tools with the same purpose, but different methods of achieving the goal. Put them in your toolbox and use the appropriate tool when needed.[/quote:36qojugo]
Do you mean that we should always keep the latest updated version of these scanners at hand?
This may not be possible for people with bandwidth caps as each of those comes at a considerable size. In this case what you're saying here:
[quote="DavesComputerTips":36qojugo]So how do you download these updates if the infection has killed the computers ability to connect to the net?[/quote:36qojugo]
applies equally.

Or am I missing something?

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Jim Hillier
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Well if you are missing something FD then so am I. Not quite sure what Dave is getting at that there myself.

If your scanner/removal software is not up-to-date, it doesn't matter which route you go, updated definitions or entire program....if you are unable to download anything, you are in exactly the same position, either way.

[quote:2gxk9afs]Put them in your toolbox and use the appropriate tool when needed[/quote:2gxk9afs]
Yes well MSS expires every 10 days and requires a complete fresh download to get the latest definitions. Not sure who would want to re-download 70+ MB's every 10 days in order to keep MSS "in the toolbox"....not me, that's for sure.

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[quote="ozbloke":1lo7uea2]Not sure who would want to re-download 70+ MB's every 10 days in order to keep MSS "in the toolbox"....not me, that's for sure.[/quote:1lo7uea2]
No one can blaim you for being unreasonable, Jim.

Still, I'd like to hear from Dave, maybe we [u:1lo7uea2]are[/u:1lo7uea2] missing something here.

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[quote="Flying Dutchman":18wg7uqy][quote="DavesComputerTips":18wg7uqy]They are all tools with the same purpose, but different methods of achieving the goal. Put them in your toolbox and use the appropriate tool when needed.[/quote:18wg7uqy]
Do you mean that we should always keep the latest updated version of these scanners at hand?[/quote:18wg7uqy]
No one said this "toolbox" is physical or tangible. What I mean is that if you are presented with a situation needing such a tool you have a resource. You know about the tool, its' abilities and where to get it if needed.
[quote:18wg7uqy]This may not be possible for people with bandwidth caps as each of those comes at a considerable size. In this case what you're saying here:
[quote="DavesComputerTips":18wg7uqy]So how do you download these updates if the infection has killed the computers ability to connect to the net?[/quote:18wg7uqy]
applies equally.

Or am I missing something?[/quote:18wg7uqy]
My point is - when faced with a problem computer that can't access the internet it is simpler to download a complete tool with up to date definitions from another computer and use it than to have a tool with outdated definitions that you can't easily update.

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Thanks Dave, makes sense now.
I was missing your point as I got stuck thinking that the infected computer would be the only one available to use.

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